Synanons punitive system of verbal attacks and humiliation was counterproductive and drove out most that entered. If it had ended there, Synanons legacy would be far different and it would probably still be there. And, as stated, many of those who left were purposely ejected or forced out by Dederich squeezes. Indeed, that same year Dederich, in his The Wrath of God speech accused addicts of stabbing him in the back by failing to negotiate an apartment complex purchase, and threatened to get rid of all of them and replace them with squares. One feature of Seed was the Spanking Machine where a childs father must publicly whip his kid before the large peer Group. Nov 04, 2017 Daina Fanning rated it really liked it. That is not ego. *, As with The Seed, at Straight abuse was omnipresentincluding beatings and kidnapping of adult participants. As a key distinction between comparing Synanon to America, those in Synanon who tried to warn or criticize were shut down and shoved out. The Hammer Podcast. People had to know its dangers before making choices to support or join. The sicker he became, the more he was tormented and tortured by the staff. Copyright Paul Morantz. The truth is Santa Monica was enforcing a valid zoning prohibition. also, to write a good book, you have to think that is what you are doing or it will not be a good book. A belief system based upon coercive persuasion is expected by all who have studied it to be largely abandoned when the pressures are removed. Jollett, then just a little boy, hid to save himself. But that dwindled as the joiners became younger and Dederich turned his attention to using the media and Hollywood to produce a flow of persons, goods and services to develop by 1976 over $30 million in assets and the start of large salaries and bonuses. WebSynanon Survivors 136likes 149followers Posts About Photos Videos More Posts About Photos Videos Synanon Survivors Intro Link To The Synanon Survivors Group And Synanon did not even keep it from the public. Sure it maybe closed but it still needs to be investigated in the same fashion that Penn state was investigated. Some of these programs were in the wilderness, some were high in the Mountains, or in deserts, or per parents trading children and keeping them in locked rooms when they were not in camps many of which were like old time chain gangs this saving cost of shelter and food. Children say they were punched, kicked and forced to eat dirt for minor infractions such as failing to stand up straight. Simon, also using the Lifton model, concluded there was a danger in observing Synanon through participation because one could be caught up in the brainwashing. In the book The Tunnel Back Yablonsky, Dederich and another Dr. discuss that the Synanon system is similar to Dr. Liftons discussion of Chinese brainwashing. How all of this occurred is set forth in the first book So Fair a House by Dr. Casriel. As stated in the Skeptics Dictionary, law enforcement officials, politicians and religious leaders helped push those fearing addiction to what it determined was primarily rackets designed to make money with little regard for human well-being (like Elan and CeDu). Survivors of Residential Treatment Centers (RTC) WWASP Fighters. That is why the health department took action in 1977. Sells noted in 1976 that, The more strict the program the lower the percentage of clients retained in the [TC] program..Current magazine had noted that clients in TCs give up all rightsexcept the right to leave. WebSynanon was a religous community. A scheme that was illegal, it led to arrests in Arizona. He told me that he had interviewed Synanon people and examined the UCLA records. But he was tapped for his past violent tendencies and unleashed like Russell Crowe in L. And that you should try to see people the way God sees them. AA, as Synanon did, says one must participate in AA for life and have a religious belief in AA 12 steps. Following this broadcast, several executives of the NBC network and its corporate chairman allegedly received hundreds of threats from Synanon members and supporters. [31] NBC continued with a series of reports on the Synanon situation on the NBC Nightly News. Its goal was to take it to the context of greater society.I would appreciate you know your feelings. I responded to him that the media never knew the extent of the actual violence and as far as violence inside Synanon, how many incidents would you like to know about? Later I sent him a copy of the History of Synanon violence with over 80 incidents and he never responded nor did I hear from him again, nor did he ever apologize to the public for writing a book in which he intentionally avoided the actual evidence. WebNeed your help! Dr. Roger Meyer, a professor of psychiatry at Boston University, and formerly the Acting Chief of the Center for Studies of Narcotics and Drug Abuse at NIMH, was one of the first to question the wisdom of subjecting kids to the brutality of the Synanon Game. Maybe it's the leader's fault. You might call that egotistical, but I felt I had that knowledge because I had engaged so many. As stated in earlier chapter, one study on encounter groups in 1971 found the Synanon methods of attack therapy was the most likely to create psychological injury, and the experiment led to mental breakdowns and one suicide. WebSynanon eventually unraveled in a series of assaults and attempted murder. In the introduction I asked the question was Charles Dederich just another sociopath who rose to power or was he a Jedi Knight seduced by the Dark Side. The belief that Synanon was a breakthrough, as stated, was mainly because of its public speaking bureau. It exposes the cruel abnormal policies, practices and propaganda the Synanon children were forced to endure in a so-called modern America. Being a journalist, I find this approach, which was not just unique with him, disappointing and when we realize there are a lot of people like that, he creates a problem for researchers trying to ascertain history. The leader, Chuck Dederich, decided we wouldn't have parents, and then we just didn't.". Real crazy people. Even if the system had worked, the price was too high free will. He interviewed Richard Ofshe but then without explanation he wrote Ofshes discourses of brainwashing interesting, but not applicable. *..*.*. Many who studied Synanon agreed. I'm going to get up at 5:00, I'm going to feed the rabbits, I'm going to make myself breakfast, I'm going to make myself lunch, I'm going to walk to school. That's crazy,'" says Jollett, reflecting back on cult-members giving their children away at 6 months old. Podcast. On June 27, 1990, six weeks after the death of Michelle Sutton, 16-year-old Kristin Chase died at the Challenger wilderness camp in Utah of hyperthermia and dehydration after a 5-mile forced march in 105-degree heat. Arbitrarily, I would say that young persons under 16 years of age should be excluded from these programs and that careful evaluation be given admitting persons between 16 and 18 years of age . Early on they selected former Synanite David Deitch to run Daytop but later released him when they claimed he tried to set up a Communist-based political action committee of ex-drug addicts. Now, if it is not very God damn profitable, I would go into another business. While the abuse in Synanon was bad enough, it pails in comparison to a stream of sociopaths who hijacked the system to become Millionaires through the abuse of children; in some cases even as morally deprived as organizations that kidnap children and sell them for profit. S. B. About six years ago, though, she began thinking it might be a good idea. By example, as compiled by Dr. Ofshe, in 1961 all Dederich reported was that 70 out of 176 addicts had stayed for 5 days. Some children were taken to foreign countries, or islands, although foreign countries have done more to stop them than our government. (He considers his dad's partner, Bonnie, his mother. The evil was he boasted that they would cut off any charity that did not do as Synanon told them to do. Such people probably would be happier in a small environment with given friends, lovers, jobs and a sense of purpose, where most needs are fulfilled. I suspected this would happen, because it is well known that people in cults go from outrageous anger to a final whimsical yearning at the end for a time of spirit and comradeship. In my opinion Elan operated as a continueing criminal enterprise for close to forty years. I am a Synanon survivor. as to George Bush, again in my book I said there was no difference between him psychologically and Osama. Spare the Rod Healing. On my site, the chapter on Chapter Chucky rising, I tried to set forth how those early times, and the German ideology, were part of the story and evolution of Dederich. "I think the insight for me was I always loved her, she just wasn't very good at loving me. Both AA and Synanon provided this insight, but unfortunately each bounded its members with an ideology and demand to never quit the organizations. But you make many assumptions about me. (16) In 1985 psychotherapists Thomas Bratter and Gary Forrest echoed the conclusion of Rachman and Heller and added a caution of their own when they wrote that such a treatment [for self-destructive drug abusers] may not be necessary or appropriate for other treatment populations, i.e. For readers, Hollywood Park is a powerful memoir about one man's journey after he escapes a violent cult as a child. gave a grant to a Florida organization called The Seed, which applied Synanons methods to teenagers, even to those only suspected of trying drugs . just state that and agree to the group rules!! And that number was highly inflated by injection of squares and children born to addicts and squares alike. Some had warned of the potential dangers of using synanons (game) on adults. Barker had been arrested at age 16 for burglary and when he was 18 he was charged with assault and robbery, for which he joined the Army a few days later and then went AWOL. And that was great. This story . We have multiple groups dedicated to ending the TTI (Troubled Teen Industry) as well, that work in conjunction with mine, this is how I discovered this story! is probably the most clear and present danger the presidential office ever faced. And it was repeated in books by Yablonsky and Endore and unfortunately repeated a decade ago by Janzen. But I, its a marvelous business to watch these assholes come in and fall all over themselves and try bite me in the ass. As I said, for years I basically hung out with former members. Dinosaur Survivors Leave a Reply Cancel reply. I remember you saying that you had not heard of Elan, yet you were aware of there being many Synanon spin off treatment centers. I stated my views, but I gave statistics and reports to back them, most unfortunate to learn of the great tragedy that have occurred in the clones are all these years. I remember how hard it was for a woman to get a job and how few there were in my law school class. When he begged to see a doctor, the staff sneered at him and called him a faker and asked him if he were homosexual.. Saying his death was caused by cardiac arrest, said Cohen, is really sugar-coating the pill as he was tortured to death and also denied medical treatment. They didn't know," he says. In one of his many papers on Synanon, Ofshe noted that it is doubtful that all the therapeutic communities that cloned themselves after Synanon would have done so if they heard Mr. Dederich testify as he did in 1979: its always a mistake to let anyone into Synanon. All Rights Reserved. All throughout history when the same mix occurs so do the same results. He found that at Odyssey House only 25% of admissions stay more than 30 days, that the rate is down to 9.7% after six months, 5.6% at 1 year, and 2.8% after 18 months; the programs required length of stay to graduate.. What is mysterious about this? Good luck. The effects of this type of interaction upon a fragile self-image and upon later impulse control in the world at large have not been determined. And back is my reply to you. Many have the support of state agencies, because of the past publicity for Synanon, unaware of what happened in California and assuming therefor these programs worked. My discussion is on the known today dangers of a hatchery (abandonment syndrome) which Susan Richardson wrote about, the psychological affects of attack therapy which can cause psychological damage, including psychotic breaks (which happened at Synanon) and how everyone finally bought into the enemy at the door who were all prejudiced against them and finally reduced Synanon to a state of mind where propaganda ruled over truth, all the ideals were tossed out and a growing comparison to the Manson family was in place. How old were you. There were countless communes and entities much larger that took in people of all races. The real origins of the Cedu schools remained hidden from the students, their parents and much of the staff until years after their graduation or departure. Since I had as friends, people like Bernie Kolb and Ben Parks, who went from long-term addictions to long time great human beings, I concluded something there must have worked. . No one knows the actual final fate of the 19. Fatherhood has made him more cognizant of how much trauma he experienced as a child, as it has for other former Synanon kids who have become parents. "Mary Karr likes to say, 'You have to write about difficult relationships with great love.' They must be lies because you cant live with any other thoughts. .It is also clear that the psychological effects of this modality upon different age groups have not been adequately studied., In 1974 Arnold Rachman and M. Heller warned about using the Game with kids when they wrote: There is a serious shortcoming within the theory and the practice of the T.C. It quotes statements I did not make but Dederich did. Anyway, you should learn about ones actual career before you make assumptions about it. For us, it was Experience of Contact, thousands of interviews, internal documents, depositions of leaders and a lifelong examination. And when former clients sued Straight for holding them against their will, Straight pressured parents into letting Straight fight for them for the right to force their kids into treatment with the force of a court order. This is especially true when punishment is viewed as a healing process. TTI Survivor - Leviah Rose. A. Confidential. Ordered by the court out of Synanon, he returned to a life of crime and was murdered. Do you realize that over 80 people were attacked? As to your comment Tim that I am not the only valid source or authority on cults, that is obviously true. Thats why I wrote the history of Synanon because there is so much to learn. I have the book and am reading it. A popular TV series was based on John Maher, a colorful former Synanite, who formed his own second generation Synanon in San Francisco called The Delancey Street Gang. But I believe there are important messages in its history I was drivin not to let Janzen alter it. I offered the information to Janzen and he didnt want it. What is this thing that you think you're doing? Im not pleased about it, a lot of people got hurt and if your part of the Justice system that should bother you. (c) Nov. 2012. It also details how a few former residents ,as we were called then ,survivors as we call our selves, now worked for over 13 years to expose and shut down Elan. At the heart of the Cedu program was a philosophy that had grown out of various self-help movements of the 1960s and 70s, such as Lifespring, Werner Erhards EST, and most directly, from Charles E. Dederichs Synanon cult, church, and street-level heroin-cure program. Eventually, on the subject of rehabilitation, Ofshe would write, Synanon was the failure thats gave birth to an industry.. Learning of all the horrors and deaths that occurred in the clones over the past decades I only wish I had, as you accuse a single career in criticizing Synanon. Link To The Synanon Survivors Group And Future Photo Library Even today, some ex Synanon members, including many who had claimed they were harmed and/or were critical upon leaving, have played an on-line version with each other that slowly brought them back into the fold, confessing what others want to hear and afraid to say what they dont. And while in 1978, he noted, Synanon publicity reported 20,000 people had gone through its doors, they were exiting at even a higher speed. The problem is, however, is how to ensure they are taken advantage of. There are more successes, like the Rolling Stones Rick Jones, that stemmed from bona fide psychotherapy. Also, because of time restraints, I put up the information so it is there and then go back and edit when I have the chance. That's our job, to love this [child] fiercely and protect it. It is the freedom of thought and free speech that gave America the chance to go on and recover from its mistakes. I dont have much to argue with what you say about the people in Synanon and do not disagree they helped others, they were there to do that. He participated in several missions, and arguably would have lived a better life but for his exposure to Synanon. In 1971, Dederich stated, as Ofshe noted: we want at the idea of graduate. This was a sop to social workers and professionals who wanted me to say that we were producing a graduate. I always wanted to say to them, A person with this fatal disease will have to live here all of his life. I know damn well if they got out of Synanon they are dead. Psychiatrist Dr. Judianne Densen-Gerber visited Dr. Ramirez in Puerto Rico and setup her own synanon-based TC in New York City called Odyssey House. It was reported between 6000 and 10,000 people lived in Synanon from 1958 to 1968 but apparently only 65 were ever known to have completed the program and elected to graduate to life outside the community. Vision Quests leader was convicted of smuggling cocaine. Since I alone have the records (UCLA has only what Synanon chose to give it) I felt obligated. You say it is unscientific nonsense, but prove that any of the statistics and studies were not accurate or that the events that took place in the clones did not happen. I find I edit better after I posted and edited this one about 5 times so far. And I still do. Almost all modern day therapeutic communitiesand there are hundreds of themare based on the game. But it is mans nature to flock together and unfortunately war with each other. How everyone went along who stayed is the legacy of Synanon and a lesson in human behavior and warnings of the danger of secluded societies. "Then my dad became extremely interested in my life. Another myth perpetrated by old time Synanon members, and apology writers, like Janzen, looking for fans among ex-Synanon members, is that Synanon played a role in civil rights. Free choice is an American ideal, and we sacrifice for it, to preserve it, because as a nation we believe it is our greatest freedom. "At that age, my response was to become the super kid. For author Mikel Jollett, the frontman for the indie band The Airborne Toxic Event, his book is a "primal scream.". Synanons most important legacy was to fulfill sociologist Edgar Freidenberg prediction after reading Yablonskys book that the organization was punitive, brainwashed and would ultimately create a dangerous state of mind. Margo, you say you are a successful attorney. He became the one to blame, he was the angry one. He had beaten me time wise. Janzen could have had this dissertation, but he was not looking for truth. It cant be denied that Charles Dederich in many instances, while playing Skinner, was ahead of the times with positive ideas. I did not delete Susans comment, they disappeared and then reappeared; have happy holidays. You can also see a shorter version of my career on Wikipedia if you do not wish to buy the book. That Young people were beaten, some in public demonstrations. Jollett and his older brother Tony were taken from their parents his father a recovered addict and former convict, his mother an anti-government activist from Berkeley when they were just 6 months old. It a very sick place for teen agers,and during my time we were mixed in with adults. As I said in the beginning, my views changed at different times, and it was only upon reading of what happened at the clones was my view finally shaped. This program was called MATRIX. Because he had lived for so long surrounded by yes people, he had no understanding how others would see his actions and thus was very open in admitting what he did, including that violence could not happen unless he approved it. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. In 1974, Congress opened an investigation into such behavior-modification programs, finding that The Seed had used methods similar to the highly refined brainwashing techniques employed by the North Koreans. God bless you. WebSynanon Museum (no password required) Please fill in both the "User ID" and "Password" entries; If you don't have a User Id and Password yet please Click HERE to Sign up: User The experiences with the original population of adult addicts still pervade the thinking and functioning of most T.C.s. you might also want to watch Cal. While Synanons bragging of curing drug addiction was far off from reality, its public relations system did promote the concept that drug addiction was not impossible to overcome as many had thought when Synanon was conceived. Were they all out to get rich at the sadistic treatment of others, or was this end in part of natural consequence of using such a punitive system, as suggested by the Stanford experiment on role playing of prisoners and guards? In short Straight took a bad treatment modality, made it worse, and then force their young subjects to endure it. Spankings with paddles often drew blood and Phil Williams was beaten to death in the ring. Sam Gillette is a books Writer/Reporter for People.com and People Magazine. He told me he was completing a book on Synanon. A business illiterate, I dont know an invoice from a purchase order or the difference between shipped and delivered. By then only 1000 out of the 12,000 claimed to have entered were there and leaving was defined as failure. And in end, its Synanons holocaust that is its legacy, particularly since there were so many who predicted it as early as the 60s from nothing more than reading the books written about Synanon. A former member of Elan wrote: Elan is best described as a, sadistic, brutal, violent, soul-eating hellhole. At Elan, the Game was transformed into constant screaming and degradation and the physically rough treatment became all day violence. I am still not in the same league with Dr. Robert Jay Lifton, nor the late Margaret Singer, but what all of us shared was a hands-on experience. Largely, the squares were people looking for purpose and to be part of something. Looking back, I think my brother was appropriately angry with the adults.". It was like, 'Nothing ever gets to me. This is due, in part, to many Synanites having left to form their own lucrative drug rehabilitation companiesa degree in medicine is not a requirement. Information from former members of the cult quickly identified two of Synanons Imperial Marines as suspects in the snake-attack. But Farve had the money so he could be self indulgent. I am very aware of the early philosophies of Synanon. I asked him how he could write a book on Synanon without ever interviewing the person who fought it. But I also concluded that Synanon would always be dangerous because of the nature of the Synanon game. 14-year-old Anthony Haynes died while attending a five-week boot camp operated by the Americas Buffalo Soldiers Re-enactors Association. Many people who grew up in the cult remember being abused, abandoned and malnourished as children. Rather than a commune wonderfully described by Yablonsky and Janzen as reforming criminals, it made criminals out of non-criminals, and took former reformed criminals to a higher level of criminal violence. He also forced women to have abortions and almost 200 men had vasectomies after Dederich forbade any more children. What is known about the early days, was that the older joiners were more likely to stay than the younger, and its initial opening success per Ofshe reflected that then the current age of entry was 34 or older; they were people who had a strong desire to remove themselves from the demanding regime of an addict/criminal life. I was also impressed by stories I was told about the early days and when the Synanon website first started it had lot of anger expressed towards Dederich. Many programs report a high dropout rate with younger adolescents, which is directly related to this factor. By the 60s the Los Angeles school system had schools (not all) already well integrated and taught anti-bigotry. Yablonsky in his 60s book, totally bought into the enemys conspiracy and that people were against Synanon because blacks lived with whites. Even AA, which similarly indoctrinated a specific dogma the 12 steps is seen as not so successful as promoted and/or a proper therapy to cure alcoholism as it demands a dogmatic conversion and life time attendance that has been proven not necessary. Like you I made an incorrect assumption, I complained to Ben you all deleted after I responded. He would want to know the reasons that motivated me, if he was in search for the truth. Her alleged crimepetty theft. As for women, I cant purport to be an expert, but having lived through the 60s Revolution and womens rights I do have my observations. This is due, in part, to many Synanites having left to form their own lucrative drug rehabilitation companiesa degree in medicine is not a requirement., ***. His family claims his pleas for help were ignored. Ofshe who had been allowed inside Synanon to study it contacted Dave Mitchell in 1978 to ask if he was serious about investigating Synanon because violence could not occur randomly under Synanons controls and can only occur at direction of management (later admitted by Dederich at deposition). Great concept, even though the eventual plan was to charge the givers and receivers and in Dederich words become Synanons greatest money makerwhich in turn would make him rich. I look forward to comments, but those based upon facts, not attacks on the messenger. I have it. see review. Ego had nothing to do with that comment. He wrote the failure of Yablonsky to see the horror of what he had written raised questions suggesting a lack of humanity in Yablonsky. And they didn't do that.". Eventually in a 1978 tape recording called The Freebees are over Dederich set forth the plan to establish a private corporation, Home Place, Inc. in Arizona which would charge Synanon for rotating people to the new compound to be educated by Dederich and that Synanon would pay the corporation for this, which then would pay salaries to Dederich and his cronies, of which they would pay taxes. Unfortunately, came the imitators who sold the idea it was rehabilitative and copied it leading to a much greater list of damaged individuals than Synanon could ever achieve. Suggest reading the fall of series. As to CED I have no clear answer, but certainly his childhood traumas and abandonments were likely to produce pathology. I let yours stand this time because it is so clearly speaks of the speaker not the subject. The problem of these programs was it was believed it was justified to use any means, denying human and civil rights and treating people who didnt need treatment; all this done without any proof that behavior modification programs ever worked. Seven years before that trial Goldfarb had written a book calling for prison reform using the Synanon-style therapeutic community. Studies found that Synanons encounter groups could produce lasting psychological harm and that only 10 to 15 percent of the addicts who participated in them recovered. You would know that in general I have a higher regard for Synanon people than the public at large. Joe Ricci, the owner, survived the state of Illinois pulling residents out because of the abuse and beat them in court. Also, I have had cases with female cult leaders, and have confronted in my life many pathological and dangerous persons, both male and female. Watched the documentary Ethel on HBO and compare the public speaking of the Kennedys to the embarrassing debates that took place in the recent election. Another boy froze to death (given no coat or shelter), and the victims even included former Synanon children who were placed in these camps by parents still believing in the Synanon system. The legacy quotes statistics that I did not keep or make, but Synanon did. WebI run the Synanon Survivors Facebook group and wed love to have to as a member!! And it is no wonder that almost everywhere Synanon went, Dederich picked a location that was out of zone in which he knew they would be kicked out of, allowing him to claim outrage and obtain sympathy and donations. As I said, I would say the same of Janzen. "I can't tell you how many times a day I pick up my kid. And I really try to do that," Jollett says. no Mr. Vandeman I am not deleting this as it is not as vulgar as the others. We were indoctrinated quickly thru fear, humiliation,and the constant threat of physical violence. For more than a decade, a Tucson nonprofit drug-treatment center Ex-members have no idea how close they all came to being arrested for conspiracy of RICO violations. The musician also remembers the period with his mother and brother in Oregon, where they went to hide. Synanon just wasnt that big enough to be an influence. In 1980, the cult leader received widespread attention when he pleaded no contest to charges of assault and conspiracy to commit murder after he and two other Synanon members attempted to kill Paul Morantz, a lawyer who had successfully sued Synanon, by putting a four-and-a-half foot rattlesnake in his mailbox. The study of cults can teach us the problems of nations. Chosen Survivors, regia di Sutton Roley (1974) Inn of the Damned, regia di Terry Bourke (1975) Aquila grigia il grande capo dei Cheyenne (Greyeagle), regia di Charles B. 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